Curious about java-monitor.com

[pjdevries]

Googling for a Dutch java forum, I stumbled across the anouncement on www.nljug.nl (http://www.nljug.org/pages/articles/weblog/00116/?template=showarticle.html) that a new java forum was started. Because there didn't seem to be a proper Dutch Java forum yet, I rushed over to have a look.

The first thing I notice, is the lack of subjects. Although the home page of www.nljug.org (http://www.nljug.org/) states

Founded in 1998, the Dutch Java Users Group consists of business partners, software developers, application architects, technical managers, students, and new media developers that have a common interest in all aspects of Java Technology.

the number of available topics is quite limited and doesn't quite reflect what seem to be the nljug's objectives. What I sorely miss for instance, is a forum for developers. Also, some kind of general purpose forum, for messages such as this one, may come in handy.

The second thing that attracts my attention, is the choice of the 'spoken' language. If I'm correct, nljug is short for 'Nederlandse (Dutch) Java User Group', so I'm somewhat surprised to see that all threads are in English.

Maybe one of the initiators could elaborate a bit on the specific purposes and goals of this new forum and the added value compared to existing forums like forums.sun.com (http://forums.sun.com/), forums.java.net (http://forums.java.net/), www.java-forums.org (http://www.java-forums.org/) etc.

[Kees de Kooter]

Hi pjdevries,

This is the java-monitor forum (the only affiliatiation with nljug is that some forum members also happen to be nljug members).

If you are looking for a forum focussing on app (-server) and jvm configuration, tuning and monitoring this is the place to be.

cheers,
Kees

[kjkoster]

Dear pjdevries,

As you'll notice by the names of some of us here, you'll see that we're mostly Dutch (for now). I deliberately made the forum language English. I believe that by doing so we will appeal to a larger crowd and get the critical mass for some really high-quality discussion.

As for topics, we are working on that right now. The forum is all of two months old and we're still gearing up. Please suggest some topics you would like to see here.

Could you elaborate on the kind of things you are looking for, other than discussion in the Dutch language?

Kees Jan

[pjdevries]

Hi Kees,

Thanks for the swift response and I stand corrected. It's probably my inexperience with Java that prevented me to recognize the main purpose of the forum.

Now we are on speaking terms anyway, do you know of any Dutch Java forums for developers?

Regards,

Pieter-Jan

[pjdevries]

Hi Kees Jan.

Thanks for your reply as well.

I don't have a problem with communicating in English and I guess you are right about the apeal of an English forum as opposed to a Dutch one. I merely hoped to get in touch with Dutch Java developers and as such also noticed the absence of a developer forum. With quite a few Englis Java forums around, I couldn't help wondering what the adde value of yet another Java forum is.

On the other hand, as the name java-monitor.com suggests and Kees emphasizes, this forum seems to be sort of specialized and geared towards administrators and the like. If there are no such forums yet, java-monitor.com is probably a useful addition and use of the English language the obvious choice.

Although I'm still looking for a forum which attracts Dutch Java developers, I'm not sure if java-monitor.com is the place to be. After all, if it's mainly intended for system administrators, I'm not in the right place and if if it is yet another general purpose, English 'speaking' Java forum, I'm not sure if it's justifiabe and will urge Dutch Java developers to participate.

Regards,

Pieter-Jan

[Kees de Kooter]

Sorry Pieter-Jan,

This is the first dutch java related forum I joined and I do not know of others.

cheers,
Kees